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2004-05-19 [Delladreing]: oh dont i indeed?
2004-05-19 [Avoral]: No clue.
2004-05-19 [Elvómir]: scunners a scottish word. u knw uve upset a scot when they call u that or say they are "scunnered"
2004-05-19 [Elvómir]: *claps a hand over Fiona's mouth* nope you dont :p *then hugs her so she cant move to hit him*
2004-05-19 [Avoral]: Still, what's it mean? ^_^
2004-05-19 [Elvómir]: *shrugs* just generally really pissed off and that ur a right prick lol
2004-05-19 [Delladreing]: MPPPPPHHHHHH *tries to get away*
2004-05-19 [Elvómir]: *hold her tighter* not gonna happen my lovely *grins*
2004-05-19 [Delladreing]: ur either incredibly brave or suicidal do you knw that?
2004-05-19 [Elvómir]: bit of a mixture love lol k well i g2g rooms are getting locked down soon so i gotta skeedadle back to me dorm. bye!
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: hello anyone out there? *cups a hand to her ear and listens to her voice echo*
2004-05-20 [Nimune]: HAHAHAHAHAHA!
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: oh im so bored...some one say something before i start singing :p
2004-05-20 [HiddenFire]: somthing before i start singing :P
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: hahahaha :p lol
2004-05-20 [Neimo]: Somehow, I don't think that's what she meant.
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: lol you asked for it........*sin
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: ahhhmmm siiinggiing in theee raaaiynn jahustttt singing in the raiiin
2004-05-20 [Nimune]: Or how about a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs?
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: that works too
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: what a glooorious feeeeln ahm haappy agaaiyn!
2004-05-20 [Delladreing]: *slaps self in face "shut up shut up why are you singing that"*
2004-05-20 [Alykis]: i'm ^_^ and i like <><
2004-05-20 [Alykis]: but only the band <><
2004-05-20 [Avoral]: Precious.
2004-05-20 [Bakani]: O______o;;;;; okay then....
2004-05-20 [Avoral]: I destroy you!
2004-05-20 [Bakani]: *dies*
2004-05-20 [Sven Welkenson]: HAH, Feel the mighty destroyingness that is Avoral!!
2004-05-20 [Avoral]: pwned.
2004-05-20 [Sven Welkenson]: Ever find the stamp?
2004-05-20 [Avoral]: No.
2004-05-20 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol.
2004-05-20 [Sven Welkenson]: Well damn.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: *Points* UNIDENTIFIED COMMENTER. STATE YOUR IDENTITY. *Stops, and takes off the evil robot guise* Nah, you're cool. Good morning, [Pnelma Tirian]!
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Better do as he says or he might get pissy.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: what do you mean 'might'?
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: el oh el. ;) hallo, Avoral. ;) it's not exactly morning anymore...it's kinda 5 in the afternoon in LA...heheh.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: I am attempting to play the flute and failing miserably. but it's fun. so that's okay.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Ok, he will get pissy, then he'll come and fetch my sword to enact his vengeance.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: yarg. *cower*
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Oh, don't worry, if he likes you then you get hugs! *hugs*
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Yay! Flutes make my heart smile. But only by their sound and the flautist... Not like Sven would have it. And he says 'might' because all fear my godlike might. Even me. *Cowers with Pnelma*
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol! coolio. \
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: *Hugs lots!* ^_^!!!
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: =P If he likes you a lot he'll call you names, kick you, and THEN hug you! =^_^=
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: of course, it helps to play the flute if your not trying to use a bow.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: ooh! I like this deal!
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Ehhhhhhh?!?! O_o;;;;;;;
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol! what can I say? I'm a cellist at heart. mwahahaha.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: What do you mean not like Sven would have it? I like flutes just fine thank you.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: and it also helps if you're not holding it backwards. lol.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: me mom's an awesome floutist. she played in my cousin's final recital for her graduation, and I swear, if I didn't have to already, I would have PAYED to come and listen. she's also a whole lotta fun to watch, because she dances when she plays.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Hmm...>.<
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Ooo spiffy mom. =D I'm the only artistic one in my family. hehe.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Awesome! I likes this.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: And Sven, I was talking about the classic "one time, at band camp..." kind of thing. It was a joke. Wanker.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol. my whole family's musickal. but my mom absolutely ROCKS. \
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Ya know...it's sad that I get those jokes from my dad...and most of his family......ow
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Well damn, I thought you meant something else.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Very nice. You're just plain lovable now, Pnelma! *Hugs more*
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: the thing about my mom is that she has REALLY, REALLY CORNY JOKES. And she's bloody proud of it, too.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: wee! ^_^ *hugs back*
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: *snickers at the Sven liking flutes comment* Oh the randomness of my mind! ^___^
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Corny jokes huh? Want to hear mine? I'm sure Avoral and Bakani will like them too.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: It wasn't a corny joke...just an evil thought. >=] Remember your little "conversation" yesterday with a male friend of mine?
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Oh God. Not Sven's corny jokes... *Reminded of the play, with Uncle Clarence's jokes...*
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Hey, some of those were pretty good I thought.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol. I think I'll be over....here, now...
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: ....Only someone as stupid as I would find them as amusing as I do. ¬.¬'''
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: *Hides with Pnelma again* Yeah, they're scary.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: this is a lot of comments in five minutes... wow.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Yeah, seriously... We've gotten down to one-liners lately.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: I blame it on we're bored and have no lives =P
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Yeah
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Hey, Did Sven and Av go to G-ville today?
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol. do any of us do? I certainly don't! :D this is funny. go to google.com and type in 'french military victories', then click 'I'm feeling Lucky.'
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: O.o;;; *is bored enough to do just that...if she can find the urge to open a nother window*
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Hmmm will do. And no we didn't. I had to go to Atlanta.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol. and when you're done doing that, go back and type in 'weapons of mass destruction', and then click 'I'm feeling lucky'.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Aww...what a pity. Question numero dos...>.> graduation is at 7 tomorrow right?
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Yep
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: *Nods* I must check this Google thing out, though... But I'm so lazy! *Cries*
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Good...then I know what time to be there to start the water works. =P
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: It's funny because instead of victory they change it to defeats.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Bah. Water is for weaklings. I'll start the fireworks!
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: The epitome of dork! Right here folks. Have a look and see!!
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: No we're not. We just have a lot of free time.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Pif. For real. Then again I'm not much better. ¬.¬'''
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: *Whines* I'm not a dork! *Hmph*
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Yeah, you should know better than point at us.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: =3 but I wuv you both soooooo much. *huggles*
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Well, I have my new toy, and her name is [Pnelma Tirian]! None of you can have her. She's MINE.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: =[ But sharing is caring!!
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol! I'm pwned. ^_^
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: In the most loving way possible.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: wee!
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Aww a loving pwning. Isn't cute?
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: um...yes?
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Damn straight it is!! ^_^
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: okay then....=\
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Effs yeah! ^_^
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: .> What are we talking about again?
2004-05-21 [WarChiefFanguan]: cute, loving pwning?
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Oh...right....
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Yes. *Shrugs* I'm still trying to figure it out.
2004-05-21 [Bakani]: Okie dokie =[
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Sup Chief?
2004-05-21 [WarChiefFanguan]: not a whole lot. How are things?
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Things are good. How goes the warchiefing bis?
2004-05-21 [WarChiefFanguan]: it's been hell since my clan sort of quit on me....oh wait we're not talking WarCraft III here...
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: hehe Don't you hate it when clans just up and quit?
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Clans die when they up and quit....mwhaha
2004-05-21 [WarChiefFanguan]: ha, ruthless. I am actually lenient in my rule.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: If a clan thinks they are good enough to quit then they are good enough to die for me. Even if by me.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: I agree, Sven. Sven is a great henchmen. That's why I chose him to go wall bashing in my party with Toma, Sr. and myself.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Yeah, wall bashing is fun!!
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Yeah it is. I need to give you an orange jump suit at some point.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Yeah, and that's why Avoral picked a motley assortment to further his evil plan.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Ooh! Can I be a henchman? *Wants metal teeth*
2004-05-21 [Whim]: no, you'll bite stuff like Hesh.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: And do you know how bad rust tastes?
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Hesh was a douchebag. I know not to bite electrical wires.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: but do you know not to bite peanut butter?
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Don't forget playdough. That can be a bitch.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: yah, and bug zappers
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: ooh ooh, and rabid skunks.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: and metal wires.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: and rain drops on roses and whiskers on kittens.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings...
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens...
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: and why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings...
2004-05-21 [Whim]: These are a few of my favorite things.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Kaloo Kalay We'll eat today!!!!
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Give me food, henchman Sven. I'm serious. Go get me food and drive to my house.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: When the dog bites, when the bee stings, when I'm feeling sad...
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Ah, damn it! I need to smite some Goths!
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: LIKE CABBAGES AND......KINGS
2004-05-21 [Malkavian]: wakkawakka
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: *Dies*
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Sven, where the hell is my food, damnit?!
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: The Goths ate it. Get 'em.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Hey, I haul dead people not food.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: When you're hauling dead people, you're always hauling food. *Necrophagic tendencies taking over*
2004-05-21 [Whim]: I'll give you a shiny dollar.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol. I just ate buffalo meat. yummy.
2004-05-21 [Pnelma Tirian]: I just wrote most of the Walrus and the Carpenter in my diary. mwahaha.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Ooooo, shiny.....O.O
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: Do we have an Alice fan in our midst?
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Don't know about Pnelma, but I like the song.......And kingdom hearts. Yeah, Alice was in that.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: you wouldn't believe how many different modern movies are almost exact duplicates of Alice.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Yep, and you figure people could think of something original. Everything is either a sequel or a remake.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: um....not very many
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Everything is a sequel or remake these days, but duplicates of Alice? I don't think that's all that true.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: Not so much duplicates as using some of the ideas.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: Look at the first matrix movie, Donnie Darko, the novel Batman: No Man's Land, and there are bound to be more.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: She has a point about the matrix and not just the rabbit hole line.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: ok...first off, that's a believable number. And really, I don't see how the matrix was a near exact duplicate of Alice.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Even if you can count the Matrix, that's still not that many.
2004-05-21 [Sven Welkenson]: I was thinking more of ideas from the movie not duplicates.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: yeah, maybe certain parts resemble things from Alice, but the entire movie isn't a near exact duplicate as [Nimune] said before.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: actually, I have a six page paper proving exactly that about the Matrix... should I send it to you?
2004-05-21 [Whim]: No, that's not necessary. I'm sure I could BS a paper proving Dogma is directly related to Alice as well.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: but that is not- Dogma is Little Red Riding Hood.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Not my point. The point is, if you look hard enough at any movie, you can relate it to almost any story or at least be able to find a story it greatly resembles because pretty much every idea has been done before.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: close. The point you make should be "every plot has been done before." The Matrix had a huge plethora of new ideas and introduced the idea that reality is an illusion that can be manipulated.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: No, I said my point and I meant it. The Matrix had ideas that had been thought and discussed before. Whether or not those ideas were published and copyrighted is another story.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: INCORRECT! example: Bullet Time
2004-05-21 [Whim]: That was a technical achievement, not a plot or story idea.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: It's completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: Rack a point up to you.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: but also consider this: Every story in the world was verbalized before it was written.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: I didn't know we were keeping score...hehe.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: yes, but I mean that those ideas were considered and most likely written by someone before the person who actually got the credit made the idea known.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: no, that is definitely not true, and once agiain I call upon the Matrix. All of the Ideas of a super and an inferior reality most definitely came directly from the Wachowski brothers.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: They may have thought of the idea all on their own, but I know for a fact that someone thought of it first. They just took the time, money, and effort to make it known.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: what is your proof that someone thought of it first?
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Before the internet (which the matrix is just an evolved form of) was actually created, Isaac Asimov wrote a story called I, Robot. The movie will be out soon, you should watch it. Anyway, it describes a world where technology ultimately overtakes civilization. A good bit later, a movie called The Terminator was made that had this big ass computer called Skynet take over the world in the future. Skynet ultimately became a godlike being, much like the machine god in the Matrix. Now while I don't have any kind of reference for this part, does it not seem likely that with the massive scale of the internet's influence in our world, that someone had not applied those previous thoughts to...
2004-05-21 [Whim]: ...the idea of the internet (the matrix) overtaking the world?
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: oh, undoubtedly people had, but what about the idea of humans as batteries, and the robotic hordes 'cultivating' us for energy? All of the movies and stories you mentioned (I think) involved the eradication of life forms.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Well, it's ultimately just another form of slavery, which happened in real life. Did early settlers of America not use humans to produce their energy in the form of food?
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: yes, but to hold them immobile, and enslave the whole of humanity... not to mention having complete control over them...
2004-05-21 [Whim]: Well, I have no reference to use, but it's such a simple idea that I'm sure someone had thought of it.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: That is just it- NO ONE DID!
2004-05-21 [Whim]: no, they did. But the wachowskis were just the ones who made the idea very well known. In fact...now that I think about it, I believe the idea of hooking a lifeform up to machinery and sapping energy out of them was used in a show. Possibly something like batman, but not.
2004-05-21 [Avoral]: Yeah, I drew a whole lot of parallels between the Matrix and Mage: the Ascension. The Matrix, I'll give you, was a revolutionary movie in a lot of ways. It has to be the most well-thought-o
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: But to completely control a species of rational thinking (not to mention rebellious) beings?
2004-05-21 [Whim]: well, again, I can't give you a reference and can't accurately prove my point, but really that particular idea is just a combination of two ideas.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: but can you admit that the combination of two things is capable of producing a completely unique resut? Need I give examples?
2004-05-21 [Whim]: it can give a very unique result and I'm not knocking the work of the wachowskis, I'm just saying that if you really really think about it, it was all that unique.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: but it was very original.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: no, it wasn't that original really. The exucution of the idea was original and brought ALOT of technical glory to films, but while the story was incredibly complex and enjoyable, it was not that original, but rather a well put together set of ideas.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: point 2 for you. Well done, this concludes the argument.
2004-05-21 [Whim]: hehe...rock on.
2004-05-21 [Nimune]: actually, I was playing the devil's advocate here. My belief was the exact same as yours, and my friend dissagreed with me. He is standing over my shoulder right now reading it.
2004-05-22 [Pnelma Tirian]: well, the thing is that, really, there's nothing new under the sun. I think that it's just the way you present it to people that makes the difference.
2004-05-22 [WarChiefFanguan]: Alice? as in Alice in Chains?
2004-05-22 [Sven Welkenson]: Yeah, they're cool too.
2004-05-22 [WarChiefFanguan]: Oh? Which Alice are you talking about? But yeah, I really like Alice in Chains.
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